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no_one
Joined: Jul 27, '09
Status: New User
2009-07-27 23:47:20
last year i was "diagnosed" with as skitzoid ...i had never heard of avoidant disorder before and i think my diagnosis was wrong. What i didnt tell the doctor though was that the anxiety episodes only became unbearable when i took drugs. I stopped using for 3 months and it got better but started again and the paranoia is back.
I dont know what I should do to start feeling normal again. I quit drugs yesterday but i still dont know if there is more i could do. Social situations are awkward and i often feel inadequate and not worthy to be there. I tend to hold my hand over my face when I am around to many people. I cant speak properly and mutter often- my childhood was normal- i had loving parents but in school i have always been a bit of a loner with inability to keep close friends.


i lost interest in peoples conversations and get bored if they take to long to say something.

How long until i get back to normal- how do i feel normal again. and is this curable.
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   What to do?! posted by Jeanine 3 hours ago
fantasy
Joined: Jul 28, '09
Status: New User
2009-07-28 10:19:23
I feel for you, I do not care for conversation either. I only maintain my friends because of convenience, because I dont want to be called a "loner", but truthfully, I'd rather be alone. I don't know how to help you, if I did, I would have helped myself and I wouldnt be on this forum. Sorry.
no_one
Joined: Jul 27, '09
Status: New User
2009-07-29 03:04:05
Is there any medication that helps?
fantasy
Joined: Jul 28, '09
Status: New User
2009-07-29 09:31:34
I know nothing about medication :(
henrietta
Joined: Jun 13, '09
Status: New User
2009-07-29 09:36:35
maybe aspergers? my nephew has it. usually the person with it is socially awkward and doesn't understand social ques. look it up.
EBison
Joined: Aug 7, '09
Status: New User
2009-08-07 02:21:50
I still suffer from this problem myself but you can overcome it. It will never go away but you can control it. I dealt with it by forcing myself into social situations that I would never have put myself in the first place. If you can't talk to someone, talk to someone. If you are afraid to dance at parties, learn to dance and do it. Basically, you can never cure it so instead learn to live with it and conquer it. Just put yourself in a situation you refuse to be in. It's the only way to learn to deal with it and learn to be more open.
TotalAversion
Joined: Aug 11, '09
Status: New User
2009-08-16 03:47:47
normal...

hmmmm

whats your frame of reference for "normal"?

most people have an unrealistic idea what normal is... and half their bad feelings and anxiety is caused by them not being able to attain an impossible state of being...

i think thats the basis of most anxiety disorders... unrealistic frames of reference...

TA
Goldfalcon
Joined: Sep 13, '09
Status: New User
2009-09-13 17:11:31

Hi No -One

Not sure about when you said you have 'quit drugs'.

Are these drugs illicit or prescribed ?

The reason I ask is some illicit drugs provoke paranoia after they have first cushioned the effects of feeling clumsy and awkward in the company of other people. In other words, some illicit drugs will make people feel comfortable even euphoric in the company of other people. Yet once the pleasant effect wears off paranoia can be the unwanted, left-over, side-effect.

I have suffered despair, and other inhibitions most of my adult life and learned about drugs ...both illicit and prescribed ... the hard way. Some drugs are useful in combating the despair of life and others' are worthless ... even dangerous.
But the point is for me to first begin shaking myself free from despair I first had to understand that while drugs could help it also required I do my best to swallow a few home truths about myself.

For instance, I have never really been one for crowds and parties and discovering that I did not have to force myself to fit into any social gathering did bring a little bit of releif since before then I had always assumed there was something momumentally wrong with me.

It is a horrid thing to think there is something fundametally wrong with one's personality and when this judgement comes in the form of a medical diagnosis it can force people to act out their diagnosis.

Now I am not saying anyone here is 'playing up to the camera'. What I am saying is I for one certainly can feel almost ashamed ...even angry ... when I think a written record of my episodes of despair/anxiety ..call it what you will ... is a integral part of my history insofar as it will never be erased in much the same way as a criminal record.

I once went to see a doctor when I had my cartilage removed. I was in pain weeks later. He offerd me an anti-depressant. !

Falling victim to despair with all of the panic and unwelcome thoughts this state of mind brings is wretched and it certainly has cast a shadow over my life many times. But oftentimes this can pass with a little help from drugs and a good person we can trust implicitly. Yet once we have been typecast it sometimes means we are vulnerable to people who draw their knowledge about "shy, lonely, quiet, timid " people from the text book. I speak here about so-called professional people who earn their living giving advice and who ultimately beleive drugs are a lifelong option.

As I have already said, drugs can be useful but my point is sometimes it's difficult to shake off the label that has been affixed to us; meaning even when we are enjoying a 'good run' in our life ....a time relatively free from the torture of our minds can deal us ... we can still be expected to take the drugs by these so-called professionals notwithstanding our present, relatively stable state of mind.

I have enjoyed many long runs of freedom from despair along with all of the tormenting, irrational thoughts this condition consistently can visit upon me. Yet the moment I exhibit even a hint of unhappiness and withdraw from society I know I am vulnerable to being written up from the gp a drug that s/he expects me to ingest until s/he says it's ok to desist.

Sometime in the future I may need drugs. Who knows? But today after many years of learning the hard way I have come to be the judge of just when it's the right time.

For instance, when I have been on a rigorous training regime (I play Judo) or when people have been harsh and unkind with me it seems to sink me into first ..anger and then remorse .....After swinging like a pendulum from being justified in my anger and then remorseful I seem to lose ground and sink into desapir. Half the time I can usually brush off a slight or a harsh comment ...and half the time I realise later the people who I have been associating with I had no real business in associating with in the first place. But good companions are ceratinly in short supply here and so coming to realise that sometimes the best company I can keep is my own company is quite a revelation. The problem is words such as 'loner' and 'eccentric' have connotations since they imply weirdness and when I think other people could actually be casting me in such a 'unfavourable' dye their opinion (Imagined or real) can force me to seek companionship I would never have bothered to associate with. Then when I have made a complete fool of myself appeasing them ...pretending I am interested in their boring stories etc. ....I crawl home exhausted and am in a rage as to why I have once again been so condescending.

Now I am not saying this all happens in a twinkling of an eye. With me it creeps up on me and before I know where I am I am sinking deeper into that familiar pit of despair that, for me, is the bedrock of all of my irreconcilable thoughts.

Life is on-going. It happens. And today I am half ok ! Tommorow may be a different story. But I hope I can keep on doing ok.

Have a good day all:

Goldfalcon
hayleigh
Joined: Sep 17, '09
Status: New User
2009-09-17 13:15:04
I agree with fantasy. I keep my friends and sit around with them so that i'm not a 'loner' but i dont like to hang around with them outside of school.
I hope you find a way to overcome it.
whoknows
Joined: Oct 15, '09
Status: New User
2009-10-15 18:51:30
i don't know what normal is either. the most i can seem to do is to use my love of solitude to pursue things that interest me. i do sometimes wish i were more social.

i wish i had more hope. but i think "eccentric loners" do have a place in the world too. :)

(it also caught my eye that drugs make you more anxious. i had that difficulty with pot when i used to smoke it. my anxiety levels would go through the roof. i wonder if that's common with this set of disorders?)
wowu
Joined: Sep 30, '09
Status: Junior User
2009-10-17 00:37:12
I do not know much about drugs either - as I am the one who doesn't feel a need to be typecast and considered by authorities as disordered guy, but:

I think that what is important it is difference. When I have started to lose my eyes keenness - I haven't realized how it affects me. But when I wore for the first time glasses - I have just then see how much worse was before I had them.

Maybe it is the matter with the drugs. I do not like the idea of pharmacological control of my emotions/mood but maybe if I tried I would see how 'bad' my situation is. But still - I do not know if I want to see how well ... dysfunctional I am.

Learning that something is very wrong with the personality is the thing I am escaping from. I yearned to be normal to be like other people and to be accepted is in so much what I finally become.
JohnSmith
Joined: Oct 14, '09
Status: New User
2009-10-19 22:58:31
Well, there really is such thing as normal. However, to achieve your inner peace, first examine the problems. Think about what they are. View it as a problem. Then, put effort into countering it. If you feel insecure, try to permanently embed in your mind that you are just as good as anyone else.
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   VRIELLIS PLEASE READ posted by Synapse 14 days ago
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