Does the Military Attract Antisocials?

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disorderguy
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2009-07-01 19:37:33
When going into a combat zone, one is aware that traditional moral norms do not apply. You are trained to shoot and to kill, and you will probably get the chance to do so. Does this not have the potential to attract individuals with antisocial personality disorder, who may be interested in testing themselves in the theater of war and seeing what it feels like to kill without facing the prospect of punishment for doing so? Does the military do psychological screenings to identify such individuals? I am genuinely curious.
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henrietta
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2009-07-03 17:12:07
My father was in the military for about 30 years I asked him once about the screening for antisocial people and he said that they are very good at identifying those type of people and not accepting them.

And about the attraction level the military has for antisocials I would not say a high one. The military requires strong obedience and a set amount of years. Plus, it is more a group environment. So in my opinion it would not be a highly attractive place for an antisocial. I might be an antisocial and I am not attracted to it. I am however attracted to ideas of contract killers or mercenaries. Places where there typically is no group or strict rules and regulations.
henrietta
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2009-07-03 19:50:51
oh and i just thought of something else thats very attractive when feeling a desire to kill without being punished; being attacked by someone. say a man threatens me and tried to steal my money etc. Me being a woman it would be fairly easy to get away with murdering the person. Of course there is the chance they will have a gun or weapon superior to what I have but unless it was a gun or knife at my throat i would attack them.
henrietta
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2009-07-03 19:51:26
oh and i just thought of something else thats very attractive when feeling a desire to kill without being punished; being attacked by someone. say a man threatens me and tried to steal my money etc. Me being a woman it would be fairly easy to get away with murdering the person. Of course there is the chance they will have a gun or weapon superior to what I have but unless it was a gun or knife at my throat i would attack them.
Twockin
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2009-08-12 18:58:28
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MissM
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2009-09-14 07:59:58
hi, i have posted a couple of things on the narcissist forum (about an ex) and having spoken to a professional about him, she suggested I read the 'sociopath next door'. Could i ask u to have a read of my posts and tell me if u think he maay be antisocial?
ltheSam
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2009-10-11 22:07:57
When I lived in England had a serious look into the RAF (royal air force) but couldnt go thru with it coz my family moved to america. when i got her i almost joined the army but then chickened out coz i hate to commit to stuff and joining the army's one of the biggest commitments ever.
im normally really thoughtful of peoples feelings and try not to hurt them but often i disregard peoples trying to keep mine safe. when im in one of those disregarding moods where i dont give a f'ck what people feel, i can cut down anyone that crosses my path. i know just what to say to hit someone's soft spot and i say it cause, at that moment, i feel so powerful in my ability to hurt and not be hurt that i dont want to let it go. its like being invincible
MissM
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2009-10-15 16:52:29
Ithesam, that is v interesting what you say about feeling 'invincible' when u hurt someone.

I was on the receiving end of an outburst like this from my ex, a police sniper/swat leader. He couldnt do it to my face tho - he saved it for a txt conversation.

I'd uncovered his lies and other women. I wasn't pissed or angry, just kind of quiet and shocked. To my face he was comforting and reassuring.

Then he gave me the silent treatment for a week after i left his place. I left him be. Then he shot me down when I tried to make contact, called me names, was v cold and callous and seemed to enjoy it.

That was 3 mths ago. Silence since. He's a lovely guy and we were great friends. The whole thing seems surreal - can't believe he wasn't who i thought.

Can u relate to this?



jay 13
Joined: Oct 24, '09
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2009-10-24 03:14:55
Does the Military Attract Antisocials
yeah the british army does but only as one role snipers/sharpshooters because of the long periods of being alone and you shoot at a face not a uniform(just pink mist to me).
MissM
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2009-10-24 21:00:57
Jay do u think this applies to police snipers too? Hadn't thought about the shooting at a uniform/face difference till you pointed it out. Remember him telling me best way to switch someone's brain off is a clean shot thru the nose. I admired what he did for a living till it became apparent he had no conscience. Didn't realise then it was how he could do his job - not that he'd ever done it for real.

Synapse
Joined: Oct 24, '09
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2009-10-31 07:15:16
The military/police like to develop a kind of numbing to death - it gets the job done and means you pull the trigger at the required moment etc.
However, antisocials don't care for their comrades and are the sort that would shoot up their barracks one day - as mentioned they do weed out mentally unstable people in recruiting.
Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 00:00:42
The military, as you've all said, does 'weed out' psychopaths (or attempts to, and is largely successful).

Think about it... would a person who is prone to boredom, impulsive, holds no true loyalty, lies with more confidence than others tell the truth... etc. Is that someone you want in the military?? Yes, they may be 'good killers' possibly, but even as a sniper for example... would the majority of psychopaths be able to postpone immediate gratification by going through the hours of waiting and stillness? And would they also feel any obligation to be truthful, or restrain urges ...say to go on a little murder/rape spree in an isolated village and lie about it?
MissM
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2009-11-04 15:08:49
i've heard the term 'controlled sociopath' and opinion that the military, police are havens for this personality type. What are weeded out are the potentially criminal antisocials. My ex was impulsive, extremely prone to boredom, unmoved by others' pain or discomfort and relished his ability to switch off and detach to allow him to do his job. Altho not a criminal, he indulged in illicit and subversive sexual activity, bought poppers and other stimulants on the internet and harboured a secret hatred of women. All of which he hid with a jeckyl and hyde persona. I still reel at the disparity between the funny, sociable, warm man I loved spending time with and the cold, remorseless excuse for a person he showed himself, eventually, to be. He once told me, boastfully, that he could switch my brain off from 300m and I wouldn't even know about it. It didn't freak me out at the time but it never felt 'quite right' that he'd said it. Guess i'm just trying my best to understand him.
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