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Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 10:05:36 |
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Hey, Amon here obviously. If you've read my other posts you'll know (or I'll summarize it now) that I've been 'diagnonsensed' with stuff like APD and psychopathy... well another thing I never mentioned is that when I was 16, and at the first psych ward my mother was pushing the psychiatrists to consider that I have a 'very serious reactive attachment disorder' instead of the diagnoses they were considering. Well... since that time I have looked it up, and read 'High Risk: Children without a Conscience'... and well, I found some interesting things. Ugh, I was going to get the thing I wrote from a site on the internet I wrote it on, but it's blocked at the college... so I will try to remember. Basically... mom, WTF were you thinking??? RAD = psychopathy, from what I read. In that book I mentioned earlier, they use the term psychopathy... but exact exerpts from it I've found on sites for RAD, sometimes with the word RAD substituted in place of psychopathy. Here's a list of "RAD" traits I found: Is unable to give and receive love Is oppositional, argumentative, defiant Is emotionally phony, hollow, or empty Is manipulative or controlling, can be bossy with peers Might have frequent or intense angry outbursts Views self as victim inappropriately, can’t accept blame Lacks fear and seems unable to learn from mistakes Has little or no conscience Lacks genuine empathy or remorse, such as being unable to cry about sad things Is superficially engaging and charming Lack of eye contact, except when angry or lying Indiscriminately affectionate with strangers and lacks affection for parents Destructive to self, others, and property; reckless and thrill seeking Cruel to animals and people Steals Lies about the obvious (crazy lying), cannot be trusted Is impulsive or hyperactive, lacks cause and effect thinking Has poor peer relationships, or based only on manipulation/conning Preoccupation with fire, blood, violence or sex Has a high tolerance for pain ...Lol. And worse, on radkid.org (I think...) I found this in the FAQ. The question was what happens to kids who don't get treatment for RAD, well one of the things mentioned is this: o The child without empathy has reactive attachment disorder. The adult who has not learned empathy is known as a sociopath. In extreme cases, they can be very dangerous indeed. Yeah, ok. Here again, they term RAD as a 'personality disorder'... in children?? One of the known risks of adopting a child from an orphanage is Reactive Attachment Disorder. Individuals with the most serious level of this personality disorder are unable to give and receive love. They cannot develop the ability to form successful relationships, or accept responsibility for their actions, and lack cause-and-effect thinking, empathy towards others, and a conscience. They are typically angry, oppositional, defiant and do not trust others. While Insecure Attachment can be ambivalent, avoidant or disoriented-disorganized, Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD) is a continuum, from very mild attachment issues to the severe cases of extreme autistic or sociopathic behavior. Some people prefer to label milder cases as attachment problems, and limit the term Reactive Attachment Disorder to serious cases. See, I thought the whole idea of not labelling kids with APD is because their personality is NOT YET formed, but here RAD is a personality disorder? The DSM has it's own version of the disorder, which has nothing to do with the accepted meaning, which to me, most resembles psychopathy. Maybe RAD = psychopathy, and CD (conduct disorder) = APD? Youth versions? Final one, this has excepts from High Risk: Attachment Disorder is defined as the condition in which individuals have difficulty forming lasting relationships. They often show nearly a complete lack of ability to be genuinely affectionate with others. They typically fail to develop a conscience and do not learn to trust. They do not allow people to be in control of them due to this trust issue. This damage is done by being abused or physically or emotionally separated from one primary caregiver during the first 3 years of life. "If a child is not attached-does not form a loving bond with the mother-he does not develop an attachment to the rest of mankind. The unattached child literally does not have a stake in humanity" (Magid & McKelvey 1988) They do not think and feel like a normal person. "At the core of the unattached is a deep-seated rage, far beyond normal anger. This rage is suppressed in their psyche. Now we all have some degree of rage, but the rage of psychopaths is that born of unfulfilled needs as infants. Incomprehensible pain is forever locked In their souls, because of the abandonment they felt as infants." (Magid & McKelvey 1988) "There is an inability to love or feel guilty. There is no conscience. Their inability to enter into any relationship makes treatment or even education impossible." (Bowlby 1955) Some infamous people with Attachment Disorder that did not get help in time: Adolph Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Edgar Allen Poe, Jeffery Dahmer, and Ted Bundy. One famous person with Attachment Disorder who did get help in time (in 1887!) and became one of greatest humanitarians is Helen Keller. Helen Keller is always on these lists for some dumb reason... I have a book on her, and I've looked it up and NOWHERE does it mention her having any psychopathic traits. And Poe too?? But yeah, mom?? Did you read what it was you were wanting me diagnosed with? She had all thesr printouts about it, so I suppose she must have. Then I wonder, wtf did she think psychopathy was? Maybe RAD sounded more treatable. Dunno... just thought it was funny. Any thoughts? |
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Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 10:10:56 |
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Oh... here's something I forgot to add (they need editing options in this forum). I have one of the reports done on me, where a psychiatrist mentions the RAD thing: Dr. Constance felt that her presentation did not support a diagnosis of severe reactive attachment disorder. He stated that “____ has never demonstrated a desire or need for attachment and has never developed a close emotional bond to another person, including her mother and father. . . From her history she has never developed any meaningful emotional attachments, either to her mother, her siblings, or peers and has stated quite clearly that she sees others as things or objects rather than a whole person.” In regard to providing a specific diagnosis, Dr. Constance indicated that the most likely diagnosis was that she was developing “a very severe and profound personality disorder in the cluster B spectrum with anti-social and psychopathic traits.” Well, I'd say that psychiatrst is a dumbass as well... if he'd have had a clue what RAD is as per the things I've found. Though, now that I consider it, he probably used the very ambiguous and vague terms in the DSM IV. |
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Hip
Joined: Aug 10, '09
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2009-11-03 15:57:17 |
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RAD IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER HORSEs--- SCHEME FOR EXTREMELY SOCIOPATHIC f---TARDS WHO NO ONE WOULD STICK THEIR DICK UP THEIR MUTANT c--- THAT THEY HAD TO ADOPT A KID, TO FORCE THAT KID TO ACCEPT SOMEONE AS A PARENT WHO LITERALLY ISNT. Basically, if the kid still loves his biological parents and wont accept his fake ones, thats what RAD is. Let's go over this bulls---: >Is unable to give and receive love Because I've never received love from my parents, I dont know what love is. >Is oppositional, argumentative, defiant Because you f---ed me, and casually walked off. >Is emotionally phony, hollow, or empty Because you f---ed me. >Is manipulative or controlling, can be bossy with peers Because you've manipulated and controlled me and thats all I learned from you. >Might have frequent or intense angry outbursts No s---? Take a guess WHY I f---ing hate you, you snide piece of rhino s---. >Views self as victim inappropriately, can’t accept blame Ive been told this since I was like 8 years old, when the f--- does it become "appropriate" to have my full rights as a minor that DOESNT have control over what the hell you do to me or others. >Lacks fear and seems unable to learn from mistakes Well, when youve been f---ed over so many times in so many ways then you start losing vulnerable angles and become immune to other people's s---. Thanks for the compliment, motherf---er. >Has little or no conscience I would 3guys1hammer you and everyone else involved in your inhumane, fascistic scheme of psychiatric control you use to harm children at any time and I would lose little sleep. As far as everyone else including puppies and kittens are involved, I have my conscience. One of the few things I actually kept. >Lacks genuine empathy or remorse, such as being unable to cry about sad things Take a guess why, genius. >Is superficially engaging and charming Yeah, even I wonder how we somehow keep that despite our harsh treatment. Possibly because we were born superior to you in every measurable way, which is what really motivated your beaurocratic psychopathy against us. You realize you're a worthless piece of s---, and instead of killing yourself like any self-respecting piece of s--- does, you take others with you, because you know when we grow up, were gonna break every bone in your frigging body. >Lack of eye contact, except when angry or lying Doesnt apply to me, so whatever. >Indiscriminately affectionate with strangers and lacks affection for parents Affection for those who've f---ed me over, and assured theyd be successful each time? f--- you. >Destructive to self, others, and property; reckless and thrill seeking If you cant take the moral responsibility of harming an innocent who didnt know what hate was until he met you, then learn to deal with his s--- you spineless f---ing pussy. >Cruel to animals and people Not cruel to animals, as none were cruel to me so far. I kinda envy them you know? They dont know what hate is, they dont know what jealousy is, they just kill you if theyre hungry or because you went too close to their kids. They could give less of a s--- if you're more evolved, superior, that you get to have orgasmic pleasures every night and they only do so once a year. They dont care, they dont have the capacity to care. On the contrary, a puppy or kitten only knows how to be affectionate towards it owner until the day it dies. It definitely understands what love is, and isnt afraid to express it continuously, but hate is way beyond its capacity. If you harm it, it will fear you, but still wont hate. Harm a creature like this? I'M NOT LIKE YOU, f---face... >Steals Eye for an eye motherf---er. You stole my childhood, you're lucky I dont steal your life. >Lies about the obvious (crazy lying), cannot be trusted Hm, im not that dumb. >Is impulsive or hyperactive, lacks cause and effect thinking Personally, not anymore. >Has poor peer relationships, or based only on manipulation/conning Maybe, but thats all you taught me, and thats what ive used to get ahead in life. >Preoccupation with fire, blood, violence or sex Not really, whats on your screen wont jump out. >Has a high tolerance for pain Once you've felt so much, it tends to lose intensity. Now obviously you see how much this s--- got to me, you see how much im pissed off, and you still think "wow you just confirmed every symptom that you're a psychopath pal, good job, hope they continue hunting you down." Wrong a--hole, look up Candace Newmaker. The government took her away from her loving biological mother who was also disobedient with the guv and lost her custody for that reason. Candy was adopted by her new foster mom who changed her last name to her own (Newmaker). Now Candy didnt like this foreign woman, because the woman was probably a c unt. She wanted her real mom back, so what did her foster mom do when Candy insisted that she doesnt love her, she loves her real mom? She got diagnosed with RAD, and therapists attempted to "cure" her with rebirthing therapy which is covering the kid with a blanket and sitting on her, instructing her to try and escape (which she obviously cant, because shes a 70 pound 10yo girl and has a number of adults sitting on her) She cried and begged that she couldnt breathe, that she was dying. They ignored her until she finally did to which they casually said "oh look shes sleeping in her poop and vomit" when they uncovered her. It is obvious to me from reading that transcript that they had no respect for the innocent girl they were murdering and probably lost little sleep over the incident. They both got sentenced to 20 years in prison for "child neglect" instead of murder, and one of the b----es was even released on parole last year. YOU TELL ME WHO THE MOTHERf---ING SOCIOPATH IS HERE. The 10 year old girl, or those hideous, murdering wads of s--- who should be slowly burned alive? And you wonder why I hate psychiatrists? DOCTORS. DONT. DO. THIS. To those that i've offended: f--- YOU TOO. |
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Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 16:02:07 |
| Yeah, they mention all that stuff in the book I named at the opening of the thread. | |
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Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 16:03:51 |
| And, are you being serious about that stuff when you went through the "traits"? Or just giving examples... sort of confusing that's all. | |
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CrazyGuy
Joined: Oct 13, '09
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2009-11-03 16:04:17 |
| Hip i think i love you | |
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Fatality
Joined: Jul 14, '09
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2009-11-03 16:05:52 |
| What CrazyGuy said :P | |
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Hip
Joined: Aug 10, '09
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2009-11-03 16:19:46 |
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Ahh so I CAN receive love after all? I think you guys managed to subside my anger for now. *GROUP HUG MOFOS* lol |
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Hip
Joined: Aug 10, '09
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2009-11-03 16:20:33 |
| And yes Amonisis I'm serious. | |
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CrazyGuy
Joined: Oct 13, '09
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2009-11-03 16:22:59 |
| HAHA :) | |
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