Thread Topic: Testing for Antisocial Personality - Ethical Concerns
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disorderguy
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2009-05-10 14:21:45 |
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Imagine a reliable test were developed to confirm a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder at a young age. How you you feel about the ethical considerations of administering such a test routinely to school-age children? The question is compelling because antisocial individuals are prone to crime. Society would thus have an interest in identifying people with antisocial personality disorder. The ethical problems are obvious, however. We would in effect be putting a scarlet letter on certain individuals. Lacking an effective treatment, what would we do with those identified as antisocial? Would monitoring them be appropriate, or would it be unethical profiling? What if the stigma attached to them resulted in a self-fulfilling prophesy--an inevitable turn toward crime? On the other hand, given most criminals are thought to be antisocial, what if routine early identification could be used to reduce crime? Would such a program not be protecting future innocent crime victims? A controversial topic, but one I think is worth discussing. |
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king j
Joined: May 20, '09
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2009-05-20 19:54:40 |
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antisocialism is very nerve wreacking for me. |
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king j
Joined: May 20, '09
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2009-05-20 20:13:52 |
| she feels that if she doesnt behave in the way the symptoms suggest, then she'll deny the posibility of suffering from it. | |
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king j
Joined: May 20, '09
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2009-05-20 20:15:59 |
| shes my exgirlfriend and i belive its why she broke up with me. | |
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hamangar
Joined: May 29, '09
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2009-05-29 08:28:47 |
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seriousfunny
Joined: May 29, '09
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2009-05-29 23:48:15 |
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as I learn about all these pathologies, I feel great remorse for past actions and want to repair my past if I can and to do better in the future. Perhaps that is what the lessons of life are. |
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henrietta
Joined: Jun 13, '09
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2009-07-03 17:23:54 |
| Interesting idea, the whole pinpointing possible criminals. I think the government could test people for signs of the disorder and give those people a file perhaps. Like they would be a person of interest to keep an eye on, but honestly I do not think they could do much more than that. If the person eventually committed a crime then they could probably use it against the person for the sentencing. Require them to go to a psychiatrist on their first offense no matter how small. | |
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Amonisis
Joined: Nov 3, '09
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2009-11-03 09:33:58 |
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Wooow... I wrote about this on a forum for first year criminology, this happened to me. I was diagnosed when I was 16... with various things, some of which I believed I was too young to get, and another (psychopathy) which isn't even a DSM IV diagnosis. I have been effected by that decision even now, when I applied for a job... even though I was hired on the spot and, ugh just read it in the 'scared of myself' or whatever it's called thread. Here's something I wrote last year about my experiences with that forum, I wish I'd have copied everything in it, but it's offline now because it was college based: I am not going to describe all of criminology right now… but there is a forum and on it I posted a topic about my frustrations (obviously I disguised that I was the subject of the topic) of being labeled with certain disorders though I was legally/psychologically etc. too young. I summarized a bit of the background, and then just vented on how psychiatrists can just throw these potentially harmful labels of ‘dangerousness’ on to a report that will ultimately be seen by a judge who sentences. There were a few appropriate responses eventually, and then came this idiot who babbled about Robert Hare (who I mentioned in the opening topic) as if he was some lecturer and I had no idea or not even considered who Hare was. Then he went on about how he was all backed up by Dr. Giede (the first psychiatrist to diagnose me with those idiot labels). He was such a pompous ass, and I was hoping that Giede could keep his fat mouth shut about me, if he seen that forum (as the guys’ reply seemed to indicate) he could recognize my name and all would be lost. I ignored the response and a few more appropriate ones came in, one person asking about how Oppositional Defiant Disorder could possibly translate into Antisocial or Psychopathy etc. and then made the common mistake of assuming Antisocial was something like Asocial. So I responded, did some little research and compiled a reader friendly list of traits and various criteria of the disorders (ODD, CD, APD and Psychopathy) and a little description of Asocial as well all based on the DSM 4. The confused person replied back in thanks, but then the ignored guy responded in some haughty anger. I think he assumed that list of diagnoses was directed at him and that I thought he was some idiot or something because he was going off about how he already knows about Asocial traits as his own mother has them, that anyone could have looked up what I compiled, that it was a waste of time etc. He then oddly went on to describe his mothers’ accreditations (2 Governor General Awards, 1 Masters Degree, 1 Bachelors… hardest working counselor at intersect). It was weird. I was like ‘wtf?’ Then he was once more talking about how he had checked with all these qualified people like her, psychologists and one forensic psychiatrist (Dr. Geide?). And… then almost as stupid (or maybe more) than his mother rant, he claimed in very formal language that he was basically arrested for assault and therefore knew everything there was to know about personality disorder and whatever the hell else he was trying to prove. I think I pissed him off when I ignored him, I didn’t mean to really… I just couldn’t think of what to say to his first reply. I think he felt like he was behind in the discussion cause I started it and was active in it and others were and we were talking about criminality and psychopathy and then he comes along and his common assault charge and all the psychologists he knows make him an expert that just has to get his opinion on the forum. Then I ignore him and discuss the qualities of the transition from ODD to psychopathy… and am recognized as being knowledgeable by the classmate and that pisses him off even more and causes him in the impulsive nature to blurt to the whole criminology course that he is a criminal. I bet he’s feeling like an idiot now, well, maybe. Maybe somehow, he really is a psychopath and doesn’t give a hell… but nah, psychopaths aren’t that stupid. They’re more about subtle hints and manipulation if they want someone to notice that there is something dark about them… they don’t blurt it to a CRIMINOLOGY class, unless they’re caught and have absolutely no hope and are largely recognized to be that way. I mean, seriously… I sure won’t be giving that potential colleague a good recommendation (which could lead to him going all ‘psycho’, ha-ha). |
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