psychopath?

fcuk Joined: Feb 24, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-27 13:09:10
	One good example that psychopaths wont change is the Jon Venables-Robert Thompson case. the authority is stupid enough to let them go just after 8 years and straight away they went into child p---ography. Authorities are just damn stupid. these guys shouldn't have been spared, what else to let go just after 8 years? and they wonder why crimes wont stop. you can extremely torture and kill someone but you wont be punished an eye for an eye.
fcuk Joined: Feb 24, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-27 13:10:23
	yeah hip! damn he does exist! i just saw him!
Obsidian Joined: Jan 22, '10 Status: Senior User	2010-03-27 13:25:04
	Haha, that's right Hip. :P Did you even get the joke fcuk? :D
fcuk Joined: Feb 24, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-27 13:32:49
	im a slowpoke. :(
Hip Joined: Aug 10, '09 Status: Senior User	2010-03-27 14:00:48
	No youre just fcuking dumb.
fcuk Joined: Feb 24, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-27 14:01:24
	thanks, hip.
haart Joined: Oct 17, '09 Status: Senior User	2010-03-27 20:34:22
	Some choose shrinks, others have shrinks thrust upon them. And some have shrinks thrust upon them by courts.
Obsidian Joined: Jan 22, '10 Status: Senior User	2010-03-27 20:38:48
	I guess you have a valid excuse then haart. :P People have tried to get me to see shrinks for minor stuff, but I've always "politely declined" it.
Hip Joined: Aug 10, '09 Status: Senior User	2010-03-27 20:54:43
	And lots of shrinks thrust hard into underaged kids.
Derrick Joined: Mar 26, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-28 02:15:50
	[quote]I gave you mine and you get all cranky about it,[/quote] You mistake me Obsidian. I quite like you even though I disagree with the snap analysis. I did not start this page. I hijacked it, and that actually fit my personality. I seldom post my own threads and I have been online for many years. I do not get crank really. The only real feeling that stays for any length of time is frustration. Much frustration, because my mind still wants everything my own way. Any feelings I have other than frustration are physical or enactments. I think that's what causes the burnout. Imagine the amount of energy it takes to put emotions on your face. I'll let you in on my depth of the sickness. When I write my sister who was always the closest person to me (when I was young) and would be the person I would love if I had the ability. I can't think of what to say to her. She loves me. I would actually say that she was given my emotions, for she was always the one bringing in hurt birds, frogs and tending to them. She would have funerals for the ones who died, and she would cry from the heart. All I can do is use words for emphasis. I use bullying for the same thing. I yell with rage for the effect, not from emotions. I also do not think that the very high degree psychopaths are all that common. All I can do to those who love me is hurt them for I cannot give them what they want. I have met far worse than me with regards to enjoying the fear in the eyes of others. That's what it truly comes down to for those of the highest degree (that I have personally met). Most of the time, the manipulation is for emotional reactions. A cat can't help it and must do it and I fear that as does the mouse, so do those of the higher degrees. A fellow in Kent (he had killed three inside, they just move you to another institution when you kill another inmate. If you attack a guard, then its years in the SHU (Special Handling Unit). At any rate, the fellow's name was Al Young. We called him A.Y. but not to his face. Actually, hardly anyone EVER said word one to him and only answered him if he addressed you. NO ONE wanted him to address them. I remember one time a new fellow had come in and was in the meal line. He was young and the young can be foolish and especially so in such places. In a line he offered A.Y. a stick of gum. A.Y. just looked through him and turned away. The next day he stuck a knife into the guys throat and up. I heard he didn't die, but we never saw him again. So there's a degree of psychopathic intent and it is the lack of what there is to be seen. Colorless. Think of the color spectrum. When you see red, you actually are seeing all colors but red and because of that loss of spectrum, what is sent back to your optics is the missing color of the spectrum, red. Thus those with a deficiency are DRIVEN to fascination and that is why most believe that you must cull them, or at the least mark them and never let them in charge of other human beings. Do not think that I am cross, angry, etc. etc. with you and you might do well to see my words and intent as carrying emphasis rather than feelings. Why? Because that also keeps you mindful of who you are conversing with, keeps you from inserting your own feelings into the conversation, and although I say I am an old fairly high rated psychopath who just has not the desire to do much to people anymore, you can never be sure of anything from my kind. Online is nice. The games are over. It's not really even enjoyable anymore, but online I can discuss with others at a distance. The controls gone and it's a balm indeed. As a matter of fact, with the funds I have now, I do little. There is a single word that I use to speak of the existence of my kind as we age. This is something for fcuk as he may appreciate it. The word is "Colorless" in all aspects. The frustration comes stronger now than then though. The house cat who plays with birds before killing them when it is young, seldom even hunts after it reaches middle to later age. Only if it has to, not because it wants to anymore. Such is the case with my kind. It is called the burn out stage. Dangerous? Yes, always. But I no longer find it enjoyable. I also accept this life for the things I have done. Not a conscience. But an understanding that my defect (which must be a defect as it effects so few) is not the correct way. Thus there is only one other road in this calculus. As everything has its opposite, there are those whose emotive brain centers are over stimulated. I personally hope a way is found to ameliorate the deficiency and the abundance. I see my present as a kind of a penance for my deeds I believe for my way is not correct and if my emotionless and Godless path is not, then the converse is likely so, for every yin has its yang. I am that I am. This does NOT take away from my many misdeeds and sins. None of it does. In the final analysis it is simply another lie I have told myself in my early years. I will die alone. Never loved, have seen the birth of a son, and who had not one feeling for the baby in sight or his mother, other than to think she was not very attractive anymore. Being alone with those who allow me to just be emotionless and live my life is the best I think one such as I can ever gain.
Derrick Joined: Mar 26, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-28 02:48:20
	And by quite like you, I mean that I do not see you as an adversary. There's only one or t'other.
Derrick Joined: Mar 26, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-28 04:06:18
	How many times on this thread has there been people saying what psychopaths have said they felt. Bundy not a psychopath. Give you heads a shake. Because of what he said. REALLY! Well with what I know, I'm sorry you believe that and I hope you never meet up with one of the kind I know and I've NEVER met a serial killer who wasn't, and I can name more than a few. Would you like to hear of one I met. I met Clifford Olson (Before he did the killings of the kids) but even then he was known to be not right and one to stay away from. A good friend of mine, my chess partner, nicknamed Noodles set him up to be stabbed and he was stabbed six times. I know they say seven, but I was there and saw it. It was a group thing. He didn't die though. He was stone cold even to pain inflicted on him. If he wanted to do something and someone was in his way, it didn't matter if the odds were insurmountable or that he would get hurt. He was a boxer and damned good with his hands. No one wanted to use the fists with him which is why he was done that way. It's called a birthday party. Early in the morning, on the way to breakfast, or a time when the one is coming back from a visit, etc. and a group encircle and the stabbing begins. Hard to even find most of the murderers I've known, but I met and played bridge with Premier of Saskatchewan Ross Thatcher's Son MLA Colin Thatcher. A died in the wool psychopath as I have ever seen. Whether he killed his wife or not. Inside it was always thought that the son did it as the time-line was tough. As psychopathic a man as I have ever seen and I saw him come in a fat politician who had voted for the death penalty. They put him in with us in general population in Sharp's Farm (Edmonton Max)! He demanded it. He paid off the inmate committee and was given a broad stroke of "Leave Alone." By the time five years had gone by, he was financing the drugs coming in with the staff and was running the place. Psychopath? He played Bridge with us almost every day for more than five years and he lost almost every game and never minded. It was worth it to have us seen together. And the games, they were not cheap. Yes, anyone who can kill without any qualm ever effecting them is a psychopath. AND DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING A PSYCHOPATH TELLS YOU. Because if that one is telling you anything in depth, YOU HAD BETTER RUN. They do not have to be a high degree such as I am. They can be far less and still you will get a pale shadow of the love you give. If you want such a thing, then for the life of me, that is as non sequitur to the premise of love as I have ever thought could be.
Obsidian Joined: Jan 22, '10 Status: Senior User	2010-03-28 07:33:51
	Oh, the first post I wrote was actually addressed to Kristen, I thought Kristen just had changed her name to Derrick because you were the one answering. Even though I thought the sudden sex change was a bit weird. :P And yes, you are right about Bundy. A psychopath wouldn't think twice about lying to gain sympathy in order to get a milder punishment. But the killers you really should look out for are the ones that seem to regret it the most, crying, talking about a life ruined, think of the victims families, please lock me up. Psychopaths are the greatest actors, the ones that sit in their cells looking angry, and say that they don't regret anything and that it was a necessity. Is either looking for attention from the press or just plain stupid.
Derrick Joined: Mar 26, '10 Status: New User	2010-03-28 12:46:16
	[quote]But the killers you really should look out for are the ones that seem to regret it the most, crying, talking about a life ruined, think of the victims families, please lock me up. [/quote] LOL at the sex change. And I agree with you for the most part, but EVERY psychopath has it EASILY in them to hurt others without qualm. So, you take a chance with any form of relationship with one because you will not get your needs met. And yes, you have a point, but the point is faceted and must be looked at in its entirety. What we all do is pretend and present. But Obsidian, if you are able to watch us twenty four seven as I have been able to do (with my own observations and the understanding of a high degree psychopath) then one gets a far greater understanding of the patterns and the many facets of the anti-social personality disorder. Many points make up a diamond, and the facets of anti-social behavior are many. I have many of them. Bits of them all. Narcissism, sadism, sexual sadism, histrionic, NOS, etc. (as you inferred a major facet). But what you miss is the energy it takes to maintain this facade you speak of and in some situations you are correct. The ones that can still get out, still have a chance for release try but that does not work well anymore. They are caught in their pattern far earlier. But be clear, the worst ones of higher degree, even when they have a doorway will not carry the facade in the institution. They don't want to as what is the most dangerous person in the Institution? They are going to pretend they are not such? Sorry, that doesn't happen and the masks come off. The tricks are for the offices of the mental resources staff. They now watch with cameras. Great actors? Keep on them twenty four seven Obsidian. The act can NOT be maintained for great lengthy durations without doing something to re-energize. They don't sit in their cells looking angry. They don't really look anything. Don't you get it yet. Frustration does NOT lead to anger unless the anger is a tool or tactic I can use to get my way. So, if they are looking angry inside, they are attempting to manipulate something in some way. No, we are not let out all that much anymore. I was lucky. Born ten or twenty years later I would be locked up long ago and would not be composing here. Genetic they say, but the choices are NOT genetic. That in and of itself is the proof of my perfidy. I really think you would do well to compartmentalize psychopathy IF is the major facet and of high degree from ALL other psychopaths, failed or not. I do not believe that high degree psychopaths attain high levels of healthy societal acts. Thatcher is proof. He is, to my belief, of a higher degree than I am. If you look in his life, you might very well see many comparisons to the murderous lifer. Imagine his abilty to get others to do what he wants. But still, his wife was grabbed from behind, terribly beaten and then stabbed many times. No one can do such a thing unless they are lost to emotions. I am not saying that one can not kill with feelings. Of course one can, but not like that. I have seen people with normal feelings kill and they can not continue after a stab or two and they are usually pushed to it and sometimes by the psychopath himself. Suicides inside are often the mark of the psychopath who councils others to finish themselves.
Obsidian Joined: Jan 22, '10 Status: Senior User	2010-03-28 13:02:21
	I'm not saying that I'm a psychopath, but I do upkeep a façade. And this façade never budges. It doesn't because I've always used it, it comes naturally. It would take a lot for it to come off, a loss of all sense of control I presume. Cornered to the furthest extent. And when this happens it will be for an attack. To ones again gain control. If there isn't any chance for regaining control the mask will stay on.
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